I was just curious about something. The Doppelganger looks fun. Question:
Shifting Infiltrator: "As the doppelganger grows, he becomes more proficient in changing his form..."
The skill only lists the base races. I should assume then they can copy monster races the deeper they go into skill?
I'm just a guy that loves his shapshifters and is terribly missing his favorite class of all time from NwN1: the Shifter. So I had to ask.
Thanks!
Doppelganger




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*Ceremorph
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Doppelganger druid could be fun though. Wildshape, elemental shape, and dragon shape mixed with the full gamut of humanoids from change self...

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*PenguinNinja
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Doppelgangers are pretty much what they sound like, they make copies of people, often times they'll kill some random person and simply take their place in society, or they'll do so for money, ect, they're quite common as mercenaries or assassins.

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*DorkCoffee
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Understood. I was just asking.
In NwN1 times past the Shifter was my favorite. Giving up Druidic spell power to assume a ton of other more powerful shapes. Beyond the utility of it all I loved the RP fun it created.
There are plenty of form shifting creatures on this server. I was just wondering if the level had been taken up a notch.
I might try out that DoppleDruid idea just for kicks.
In NwN1 times past the Shifter was my favorite. Giving up Druidic spell power to assume a ton of other more powerful shapes. Beyond the utility of it all I loved the RP fun it created.
There are plenty of form shifting creatures on this server. I was just wondering if the level had been taken up a notch.
I might try out that DoppleDruid idea just for kicks.

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*J.M. Shine
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I found my Doppelganger started with Alternate Appearance.
Then I leveled up in Shifting Infiltrator and lost Alternate Appearance, which I wasn't too thrilled about, it was a fast way to change my form into a saved form.
I think the Doppel should have both Alternate Form and Change Self upon Shifting Infiltrator.
I remade my Doppelganger because everytime I would relog (if it were a crash or reset or whatever) I would have to go through to pick the form once again.
Btw, I noticed when you create your doppelganger and you are in customize window, you can kind of tweak your first set appearance (like Skin Color, Hair Color, ect.). The choices aren't that great in Change Self so I just wanted to let everyone know about this little tweak.
The first Doppel I made ended up with a yellowish skin color at the beginning of Change Self every time lol.
Then I leveled up in Shifting Infiltrator and lost Alternate Appearance, which I wasn't too thrilled about, it was a fast way to change my form into a saved form.
I think the Doppel should have both Alternate Form and Change Self upon Shifting Infiltrator.
I remade my Doppelganger because everytime I would relog (if it were a crash or reset or whatever) I would have to go through to pick the form once again.
Btw, I noticed when you create your doppelganger and you are in customize window, you can kind of tweak your first set appearance (like Skin Color, Hair Color, ect.). The choices aren't that great in Change Self so I just wanted to let everyone know about this little tweak.
The first Doppel I made ended up with a yellowish skin color at the beginning of Change Self every time lol.

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*Ceremorph
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J.M., yes, we do know about that. Eventually we're looking to have complete selection of almost all appearances via the change self script (similar to the way you customize armor at the appearance changer), but for now the way it's set up is due to having to use head and hair values that are shared across all the races.
Okay, looks like Leoric set up change self as a successor to alternate form rather than allowing the character to have both abilities. For now I've swapped it so they keep both; this should apply to the next update. Another planned feature is to include a "favored form" option for change self, just so you don't have to tweak for half an hour ever day to get the look you want (this will be almost necessary when all the appearances are unlocked).
Okay, looks like Leoric set up change self as a successor to alternate form rather than allowing the character to have both abilities. For now I've swapped it so they keep both; this should apply to the next update. Another planned feature is to include a "favored form" option for change self, just so you don't have to tweak for half an hour ever day to get the look you want (this will be almost necessary when all the appearances are unlocked).

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*Strawberry Jam
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The way I see it, it's a way you can permadeath your character and replace them with a doppleganger instead =)

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*Cibernadie
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I'm jealous of their shifting ability, being a Rak player, I might make one just to scratch that itch the body looks pretty cool.
