Sigil: City of Doors

sure this is not the first or last thread on this but can we tone the spell done some?

Caster Roll: d20 + Primary Spell Ability Modifier + Caster Level + 12 + 4
Target Roll: d20 + Full base attack bonus + Size Modifier + Strength Ability Modifier


lets do some numbers you got a 20 caster with a + 8 mod + 12 + 4 = 44 DC

lets see how a 30 fighter type holds up + 9 mod + 0 = 30

how about a 30 ogre fighter + 12 + 4= 46

so to have a 40 / 60 shot against a caster 10 levels lower then you you need to be a full AB class and play an ogre with max st this seems a little out of balance to me

It works just about as intended:

Crushing Hand PnP, Crushing Hand NWN 2

Grasping Hand PnP, Grasping Hand NWN 2

Since there's no bug, we'll highly unlikely do anything about it.

Bigby's have always been the end-all if you look at things in a PvP perspective :)

My advise is to try playing something you just find interesting and don't be concerned if people can nuke your ass anytime!

Every end game area and boss is doable solo with a caster I would just like somewhere to go as a non caster / non Hisper that i can go grind. (abyss is out since the pit fiends use bigs auto kill) prison plane is out since you can not hit ethereal (thou with a hipster it is doable) and the new area is out because without spells the guy is nie invulnerable.

just want a place that i can grind up to 30 like everyone else who wants to.

Balor on mountain doesn't have bigby, pit fiend in cave doesn't have bigby <,<

*edit* oh and bug isn't that you can't beat them, most of the bug is that casters can :P since they're designed to be group encounters.

cave guy goes ethereal, guess i will try the mountain guy.

*edit* fair enuf but that still leaves me high and dry on a place to gain exp.
even somewhere i could get 30 a kill would be nice then i would only
have to kill two thousand or so to get my last 2 levels

A 'solution' I saw on another server was people actively doing roleplay threads about spell research their characters conducted. One such endeavour resulted in a spell called 'Force Ward' which granted immunity to spells with the [force] descriptor, ie. all the missile stuff and bigby's, for a round/level duration. I really thought that was a good compromise :)

there is big immunity splint mail on the server but since Nick is a monk not exactly useful

As a thought, to his melee solo delemma, maybe an area(s) that is antimagic. Where the need is a melee/archer and a trove of component creatures to harvest, much like the etherial. It gives epic melee'ers a place to go (without benefit of casters) and also gives magi a reason to "hire" them to either go get them components or at least gaurd them so they can get them themselves...

I like that idea of a higher level no magic zone.