I'll just drop my opinion in here so it's not just the three of ya posting back to eachother :P
On practically every server I've been on (aside from servers which have a seperate underdark area), are predominantly neutral to good. The question here seems to be 'why is that the case'? Or rather, 'why does that have to be the case'?
D&D was built on a system, where a group of adventurers would go out and slay
Evil[/B] monsters. That was the original intention. As the game developed, people started to like 'grey' more than 'black and white', monster races became playable, and with that, alignments had to be adapted. Suddenly we had evil aligned campaign modules in PnP, evil prestige classes and base classes, as well as a growing number of playable 'evil' concepts.
Frankly I believe the reason for this is because, it's just easier for DM's / EM's to deal with a group of all neutral / good characters fighting evil. It's more obvious who the 'bad guy' is, and truly evil aligned characters do some pretty messed up stuff RPwise to be evil. eg, to become a Palemaster, one has to sleep in a coffin with an undead being. And chop your own arm off and replace it with a zombie arm. That's just messed up. So generally, the mainstay content of 'evil' RP, is hard to RP without making people alienate your character for being a psycho. Hence why most evil chars I've seen on Sigil, stick to being sneaky, or a subtle corruptive influence. The few that do go full out on evil RP, often don't stay long, not because they are RPing badly, but because it's actually stressful for other people to deal with, and probably equally stressful for the person playing the character.
Now, I want to address something that seems to be an accusation thrown at the Staff. EM's / DM's don't encourage evil events. Might I ask, how many EM's / DM's have you PM'd about running an evil aligned event for your posse of bad guys? I reckon you might have tried once, maybe twice, max. Then just resorted to PvPing players and calling it 'evil RP'. I tell you for a fact, a Paladin could run around and use the point of 'My code dictates I must oppose evil whenever I face it', and they see fiends all day, so they go out and PvP all the fiend players on Sigil. They would get the EXACT SAME RESPONSE that your group is getting. And that is to stop, because people are getting fed up.
This isn't a flame thread, nor am I flaming, I'm pointing out something that has become abundantly obvious recently. So my advice?
Quit complaining about where you THINK the server is going, and ask an EM or DM to do an evil plot with you. And when you're done with that evil event? Go grind areas for loot, or sit around the Bazaar and insult people like Morthos does, or try to corrupt / provoke people like the fiends do.
Also for the pointer of fiends are not RPing correctly evil because they get 'chatty' with Celestials, I'll leave this here for ya.
Wikipedia (not FR wiki, actual wikipedia bcos I cba to go get the monstrous compendium out)
wrote:In the Dungeons & Dragons fantasy role-playing game, a succubus is a female demon, or, under 4th edition rules, a devil. The objective of succubi is to tempt men to have sex with them. They do this for their own purposes, and it typically yields a dead mortal or a pleased demon lord (in some cases, when succubi are used as assassins, both ends result). The male equivalent is an incubus.
And for another thing to think about.
wrote:The Brachina, or also known as a Pleasure Devil, is a type of devil in the Dungeons and and Dragons role playing game that specializes in corrupting the servants of the gods. They are the result, depending on lore, of either an extremely powerfully levelled Erinyes, or the crossing of a Succubus and an Erinyes. The Brachina originally appeared in the Fiendish Codex II supplement rule book for the 3rd edition ruleset.
You can't corrupt the servants of the Gods by sticking a sword in them. Which would mean said Brachina would go back to the Hells, for a very VERY unpleasant chat with their lord.
I hope this post raises a few points which should give the discussion some more... direction, or rather, leave it as it is. Evil is on the server, thats abundantly obvious after playing a character for more than an hour. Thus, I don't see the need for this thread at all >_>