Factions And Their Practical Roles

*deusex2
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Posted by *deusex2 »


So it just occured to me, that there was a practical role for every Faction in Sigil.

Some of them are more known than the others. For example, Harmonium's role as a militia force and The Fated as tax collectors.

Being a new player myself, I thought such thread could help other newcomers to make up their mind about joining Factions. So I'm starting this with few things, known to me, please feel free to correct or add new information.

Free League - controls The Great Bazaar and issues new licenses for trade.

Fraternity of Order - are running Courts and everything that has to do with laws. They are the major political power of Sigil

Mercykillers - executioners. When someone's been sentenced for death penalty Mercykillers are the ones to do the job.

Revolutionary League - terrorists. Feel like fighting against the system? Here's your choice.


Believers of the Source - they run The Great Foundry which is supposed to be a Mecca of Sigil craftsmen.

Dustmen - they run the morgue and they're buying corpses to raise them as their zombie\skeleton servants. And no - they don't consider themselves as necromancers.

Fated - Sigil's tax collectors

Bleak Cabal - they run the bedlam a.k.a The Gate House and do the charity work in Hive Ward, but don't get the wrong idea - they are far from being optimists.

That's all I know so far.
*Black_Grove
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Posted by *Black_Grove »



No, I do not think all the factions are practical. Sure plenty of them do have useful functions for the city. Some because they were created to do so (Harmonium) and others who exist for their philosophy but also perform a civic function (Fated) but there are also factions that do not give a damn or are outright criminal in nature


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*Product of Void
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Posted by *Product of Void »


Tsk Athar are legit they seek to insure everyone knows the truth :P
*deusex2
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Posted by *deusex2 »


Product of Void,Feb 22 2010 wrote: Tsk Athar are legit they seek to insure everyone knows the truth :P
Never claimed them being illegal faction. However I have no clue of their role in Sigil's society, except for pissing of all the priests :rock:
wrote:No, I do not think all the factions are practical. Sure plenty of them do have useful functions for the city. Some because they were created to do so (Harmonium) and others who exist for their philosophy but also perform a civic function (Fated) but there are also factions that do not give a damn or are outright criminal in nature
True, however if that faction have power to influence the city, then it has it's practical role, criminal or not. Even if it's handling assassinations or being sort of thieves guild, or maybe even controlling a black market.

But all that aside, wasn't there a mage guild in Sigil?
*WhenWizardsWar
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Posted by *WhenWizardsWar »


Product of Void,Feb 22 2010 wrote: Tsk Athar are legit they seek to insure everyone knows the truth :P
I think one of these faction members tried to tell my Kelmvorian the truth.

He laughed and said

"In the end, you die its that the truth"

I personally like the dustmen, then again im playing a follower of kelemvor.

The dustmen are the only facton that keep their mouth shut and carry out their service to society.

//And to degunk some questions ive been asked since starting my cleric, no Kelemvor would not oppose the Dustmen IMO. The Dustmen tend to the needs of the dead, if they are not meant to live again kelemvor would not allow the slain to return.

If a person is given another chance at life then the dustmen revive them, if a god claims his followers spirit or kelemvor decides to send them to the wall then so be it, other wise the dustmen get to reanimate them to restock their staff members.

Kelemvor detests the undead yes, but he also keeps them as guardians and soldiers as well, sometimes his agents can draw from what I like to call Sanctioned Undead, basically his servants ask his permission first and if he so chooses he will grant his servant a hand, even if it is rotten and dead. The idea is essentially fighting fire with fire, except its fighting undead with undead. So the dustmen arnt that different then how a sect of kelemvor works :)

I may be wrong but that is just my understanding.
*Fell Star
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Posted by *Fell Star »


The Athar don't really have a civic function. They work pretty much for themselves, but they introduced the Printing Press to Sigil and hold host to many scribes.

The Transcendant Order runs the city Gymnasium.

To be a bit more descriptive of the Bleak Cabal, they run an orphanage, give free healthcare to the needy, and have a wing dedicated as an "insane asylum."





*Mr_Otyugh
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Posted by *Mr_Otyugh »


Factions are like self-sufficient gangs (they don't fall apart if another one ceases to exist) that imitate social structure, others are more like "fanclubs" or "revolutionists" or similar political/religional/philosophical groups, where as others handle basic city and society structures within the Cage.

That'd be the short description of Faction in general at Cage ;P
*Lost and not Found
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Posted by *Lost and not Found »


- The Athar never really keep the servants of powers down, but they do manage to make them accauntable for their actions.

You could imagine a peddler of Yen-Wang-Yeh proclaiming in any street corner of the Cage, but if even one Athar were to stumble by, it could lead to a long and heated argument serving no one but the Athar themselves. [Powers cannot get new converts if their servants are stomping their feet on the ground while yelling insults, now do they?]





(And the Cage could do just fine without Factions, they've just been in the Cage for so long that no one can really consider it to be any other way around.)
*Reptiller
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Posted by *Reptiller »


WhenWizardsWar,Feb 23 2010 wrote:
Product of Void,Feb 22 2010 wrote: Tsk Athar are legit they seek to insure everyone knows the truth :P
I think one of these faction members tried to tell my Kelmvorian the truth.

He laughed and said

"In the end, you die its that the truth"

I personally like the dustmen, then again im playing a follower of kelemvor.

The dustmen are the only facton that keep their mouth shut and carry out their service to society.

//And to degunk some questions ive been asked since starting my cleric, no Kelemvor would not oppose the Dustmen IMO. The Dustmen tend to the needs of the dead, if they are not meant to live again kelemvor would not allow the slain to return.

If a person is given another chance at life then the dustmen revive them, if a god claims his followers spirit or kelemvor decides to send them to the wall then so be it, other wise the dustmen get to reanimate them to restock their staff members.

Kelemvor detests the undead yes, but he also keeps them as guardians and soldiers as well, sometimes his agents can draw from what I like to call Sanctioned Undead, basically his servants ask his permission first and if he so chooses he will grant his servant a hand, even if it is rotten and dead. The idea is essentially fighting fire with fire, except its fighting undead with undead. So the dustmen arnt that different then how a sect of kelemvor works :)

I may be wrong but that is just my understanding.
FYI FYI FYI Kelemvor is noone here on Planes.Death is handled like this:Worshipers go to their gods,Faithless go to the planes more suitable for them and become petitioners(Cant get any kind of levels or leave their plane of existance.Though some can come back to unlife/life serving the masters of the plane((Lemures for Baatezu,then they can rise in devil ranks)).
*cryptc
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Posted by *cryptc »


Faithless become the lowest rank on the plane they end up, so often Larva in lower planes...

And like reptiller says, Kelemvor has no doings with those who die outside Toril...
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