Wings - make them untintable for angels.
As they are now, they take main tint from skin which looks simply wrong on Aasimon - they're supposed to be white on this race...
At the same time you can't say "don't use skin palette" because for an example Planetars are green-skinned. Except then your character ends with hideous green wings whilst D&D Planetars have green skin paired with white wings.
I suggest locking wings for Aasimon and Deva in one white default.
Unless tintable angel wings are a visual bug, then it probably needs a fix.
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*edmaster44
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yeah i took a REALLY Close look at my wings and found they were ..brown >_>

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*Ceremorph
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Hrmm. That would actually require setting up a separate model without a tint map, due to the tint-fixing script we have in place to allow skin-color matching for people who want it. Could be done.
On the other hand, we have no planetars, so green-skinned aasimon are not a worry.
On the other hand, we have no planetars, so green-skinned aasimon are not a worry.

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*Embersworn
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Actually, I got a case of green wings. Not deep Planetar-like green, but the character looks silly.
Given how all sourcebooks state that Aasimon wings are white, but their skin color may differ, they really need a wing model without tint maps for this race.
One of available kinds of devas is often dark-skinned.
But woe to player who will ever try to build an accurate deva ingame... >_>
Given how all sourcebooks state that Aasimon wings are white, but their skin color may differ, they really need a wing model without tint maps for this race.
One of available kinds of devas is often dark-skinned.
But woe to player who will ever try to build an accurate deva ingame... >_>

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*Embersworn
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What's the name of model used for Aasimon/Archon wings?
Making a copy of it with no tint maps is easy... Except I can't find it in haks. It's labeled as wings or cloak?
Nevermind. I found it. Wings variation in wingmodel.2da shows in system log at resting...
Making a copy of it with no tint maps is easy... Except I can't find it in haks. It's labeled as wings or cloak?
Nevermind. I found it. Wings variation in wingmodel.2da shows in system log at resting...

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*Ceremorph
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Good work Ember.
So just to share, I'll probably create an option for angels to switch to these with the Oarsman rather than just apply it to the race, simply because there may be some existing angel characters who like their tinted wings.
So just to share, I'll probably create an option for angels to switch to these with the Oarsman rather than just apply it to the race, simply because there may be some existing angel characters who like their tinted wings.

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*Embersworn
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TBH, I think this should be in reverse.
White wings should be a default for Aasimon as per lore, and tintable ones should be an option selectable at the Oarsman.
For once, because the wings used to be white until a fairly recent tint fix script, but also because what's in sources should be a baseline instead of being pushed aside for making non-standard characters who eventually end outnumbering the default.
Sort of like Drizzt is by now a kind of drow baseline for many people. >_>
White wings should be a default for Aasimon as per lore, and tintable ones should be an option selectable at the Oarsman.
For once, because the wings used to be white until a fairly recent tint fix script, but also because what's in sources should be a baseline instead of being pushed aside for making non-standard characters who eventually end outnumbering the default.
Sort of like Drizzt is by now a kind of drow baseline for many people. >_>

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*Ceremorph
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The issue there being whether I make one little edit to the Oarsman, or go back in and rework the entirety of the Tintfix and remove everyplace it's automatically occurring.
I'm going to take the option that requires less work and allows me to focus on the project I'm already working on.
I'm going to take the option that requires less work and allows me to focus on the project I'm already working on.

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*Embersworn
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I could add info about where to look for correct wing colors to Aasimon racial description. In case a player was confused why their wings look weird. Considering that wings don't show in character creation, so there's no way to know before finalising the character.
And funny as it is, currently used angel wings have tint maps added by Obsidian, but they did never use them on Kaelyn or Solar. Because Obsidian.
P.S.:
This tint effect on angels is nothing short of hilarious(ly bad) with United Colors.

And funny as it is, currently used angel wings have tint maps added by Obsidian, but they did never use them on Kaelyn or Solar. Because Obsidian.
P.S.:
This tint effect on angels is nothing short of hilarious(ly bad) with United Colors.


