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Painbringer

Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 12:00 am
by *Negative Moon
Did anyone have the chance to check out the Painbringer after the server update?

Well if you still didn't and don't want any spoilers then stop reading the rest of this post, for those that either have and still don't believe they saw what they saw or don't mind spoilers keep going on.

I'm not sure if this was intended or was simply a mistake of some sort, but right now the Painbringer comes with a very interesting and nightmarish new DR.

It comes with something like two layers of DR to physical dmg:

-Damage immunity (soaking up to 34 points) of Physical damage
-Damage reduction (soaking up to 30 points) of damage

All of that for a total of 64 physical damage points blocked per hit landed.

Now I'm pretty sure I was using a cold iron weapon at the time so its DR is surely not cold iron xD, probably it will be either /good or /adamantine and that just to bypass the 30 DR

Some even pointed out that the Painbringer might have cold immunity and about /10+ elemental resistance (negative dmg too)
While I can understand the reasons behind such change and make it more challenging, I think it penalizes (and not just a little) all those builds that rely more on many attacks than single powerful ones and well... most of the creature weapons focused characters, that have to hope for a critical hit to be able to damage the Painbringer at all.

Here what I'm talking about. Thoughts?


Painbringer

Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 12:00 am
by *Lucadia
your weapon was not good aligned? Holy sword--

Painbringer

Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 12:00 am
by *Negative Moon
I was in Carceri before the holy sword fix even hitted the server.

Painbringer

Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 12:00 am
by *Born2BeWild
With fang of balance he got only 10 flat dr to phys dmg and i think about 30-40% immune to it

Painbringer

Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 12:00 am
by *Alersia
What a nightmare spider :blink: :blink:

Where comes the 2d12 slashing dmg and 2d6 acid dmg from?

Painbringer

Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 12:00 am
by *Negative Moon
Born2BeWild,Mar 3 2017 wrote: With fang of balance he got only 10 flat dr to phys dmg and i think about 30-40% immune to it
Uhm, possible. The % immunity would explain it, so it would vary given the character.

I think I'll have to run another time and play around with the PB and see also if the fix to Holy sword works as I was getting the message "Your target resisted to all your damage" thingie different times, but it could have been the general 30 DR kicking in here.

Anyway thanks for your infos though :D much appreaciated

Painbringer

Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 12:00 am
by *rapsam2003
Pretty sure Painbringer was always intended to be a really hard fight that required specific tactics and group coordination. I don't personally think that should change.

Painbringer

Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 12:00 am
by *Tomekk
rapsam2003,Mar 3 2017 wrote: ...required specific tactics and group coordination...
You mean spam specific spells at it until it dies? :P Although last time I went down there to fight it, it went down fairly easily. DR breaking usually solves most of melee's damage off.

Painbringer

Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 12:00 am
by *rapsam2003
Tomekk,Mar 3 2017 wrote:
rapsam2003,Mar 3 2017 wrote: ...required specific tactics and group coordination...
You mean spam specific spells at it until it dies? :P Although last time I went down there to fight it, it went down fairly easily. DR breaking usually solves most of melee's damage off.
Well, I've never actually fought the boss. But, if that works, cool. Obviously, you need to bring the right weapons to pierce DR, but that seems fairly basic...

Painbringer

Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 12:00 am
by *Mick64
Whenever I fight it, we do use some strategy. Usually Anything keeps it distracted while the rest of the party clears out the mooks, then we can 4 v 1 him without interruptions.