Ninja Looting

[*Ceremorph]

Most of the places I've played in the past were very "DON'T do this. You will be asked to leave if you do."

Unlike some other servers, we prefer to assume that our players are responsible adults. As a DM, I really have little desire to be called on with "Jimbob the Hin isn't sharing loot!", not to mention that such a thing winds up putting the stigma of "tattle-tale" on the person complaining. This is something that players can easily work out themselves, as StealthedAssailant said, with a bit of pre-planning and a well-timed tell.

Also, let's remember that we're in the RP tab. Yes, grinding and leveling can be fun, as can getting cool new weapons and gear, but the focus of SCoD is roleplaying. And I have yet to find the situation where lack of a +4 sword will prevent you from being able to role-play. In the same vein, the ninja-looter themself, simply by definition, cares more about making epic level than they do about engaging in meaningful RP, which makes it likely that they will not be a horrible loss if you aren't willing to grind with that person in the party.

However, that does bring me to a "special" type of ninja-looter that I have encountered once (and only once) on this server as a player. This is the person who has HiPS with hide and move silently maxed, or uses invisibility to avoid being seen by others, and does not actually join a party... but rather follows them and swipes any drops that they can, including boss chests. In my opinion, such a person does not deserve the air they're breathing, and I can absolutely guarantee that if I wind up catching someone doing it... well, it won't be pretty.

But as for the standard type... I'm leaving it up to the players. Trust me, I wouldn't make a good nanny anyways.

[*Ravenous]

Same... First experience in a larger group was everyone running straight at the bags as soon as they dropped. Me, playing a ranged char, got about close to none.
And since I prefer mage type characters i'll likely stay at range and get few bags.

[*Pashan01]

Wow, you lot really have had some bad experiences of this - it does surprise me. I've been here now for many months and I've rarely experienced that kind of play and when I did a couple of times, I think I can say, I shrugged it off for a bit and usually left the group soon after. Admittedly, I am a bit choosy who/how many I group with, - its mood dependant if I group at all (I level slowly in my toons), preferring to 'adventure' with RP than grind in smallish numbers 2-4 ideally :-/

*sighs* it happens on all servers I suspect, seen this kinda topic on other forums too

[*StealthedAssailant]

I really don't think this is a big deal. Out of the many times I played in groups about 3% of the time I had to deal with this kind of stuff and half that marginal percentage we negotiated compromises ICly.

No one wants to be a JERK and if you do, you won't last very long playing in a community of people.

It's commonsense, next time I would recommend the OP to just send a tell or confront the player(s) involved for overstepping common courtesy before choosing a quasi-passive aggressive approach by posting in open forums. This is NOT AN INSULT to the OP, this is a very valid topic, but normally, I would try to duplicate the experience a couple of times with other players and be assertive when speaking to these players who I think are discourteous before voicing this in the open.

Again, the above is just my recommendation to anyone that wants to settle disputes. There is no reason to be alarmed or cause alarm when the problem can most likely 99% of the time be settled IG with the parties involved. Don't be passive to others if their behavior has you puzzled. Try to be courteous, polite, and respectful when you ask your queries into their behavior. If the respective parties do not show you the same manners then I would definately suggest involving an arbitrator such as a DM or admin.

Sorry if that is not the answer you want to hear, I know that you might want a more supportive answer but I just don't think there is any cause to be concerned when all you have to do is work it out between yourselves.

[*Edge-of-Oblivion]

Sorry if that is not the answer you want to hear, I know that you might want a more supportive answer but I just don't think there is any cause to be concerned when all you have to do is work it out between yourselves.

I do believe you're missing the point, which is that the people doing this sort of thing either don't want to work it out or ignore all attempts to do so.

[*StealthedAssailant]

Actually, I don't think I am. The OP doesn't say that he/she tried to reach out to the players involved about their behavior nor does it give us any information of any discourteous behavior. That is something that i think you are assuming.

I am not basing my statement on the replies following the OP, I am focusing on what was originally said nothing more. There is no reference to any ill will going on IG according the poster's account of the event that transpired. If you read the rest of my reply thoroughly I did give a suggestion in how to deal with those who are blatantly unscrupulous.

[*Product of Void]

Sorry if that is not the answer you want to hear, I know that you might want a more supportive answer but I just don't think there is any cause to be concerned when all you have to do is work it out between yourselves.

I do believe you're missing the point, which is that the people doing this sort of thing either don't want to work it out or ignore all attempts to do so.

You can not make rules nor scripts to fix a crappy player.

[*StealthedAssailant]

Sorry if that is not the answer you want to hear, I know that you might want a more supportive answer but I just don't think there is any cause to be concerned when all you have to do is work it out between yourselves.

I do believe you're missing the point, which is that the people doing this sort of thing either don't want to work it out or ignore all attempts to do so.

You can not make rules nor scripts to fix a crappy player.

agreed, with this... but you can prevent this by setting down rules before you send or accept a party invite. Like I said, I VERY VERY RARELY have problems with this kind of behavior unless I did not voice my terms in the beginning.

[*LittleMissWonderful]

Sorry if that is not the answer you want to hear, I know that you might want a more supportive answer but I just don't think there is any cause to be concerned when all you have to do is work it out between yourselves.

I do believe you're missing the point, which is that the people doing this sort of thing either don't want to work it out or ignore all attempts to do so.

You can not make rules nor scripts to fix a crappy player.

Sadly.

[*Edge-of-Oblivion]

I suppose I'm just used to servers where this was handled much more... strongly. As in "carry a big stick".

Most of the places I've played in the past were very "DON'T do this. You will be asked to leave if you do."