Pov's Build Challenge Dc

[*Product of Void]

well even with out dc a wizard/sorcer with Avasculate can make short work of things. There is a save to that spell ....for stun.

have also seen some wizards do nice damage with disintegrate. empowered figure its 40d6 x1.5 = which is between 60 to 360 damage (no save well a fort save for 5d6 additional. You take the 40d6 if they make a ranged touch attack.).

From what I hear if that is from a hidden character just deflection and dodge ac is added so really just need bab 10 or so to hit most.

[*Product of Void]

hmm bard 3 curse song -1 to will /fort
blackguard -2 to saves

dc 24 base

wisdom boost +6
+3 spell focus transmutation.

24+3+6 =33

of close and use curse add 3

36 level six spell drown 42 or level 9 spell mass drown 45

followed by extract water elemental or something else would do in most creatures.

prefer none epic dc something more likely to cast.

[*Vagrant]

So you're including non-save ways to lower your opponents saves in this?

[*Product of Void]

yeah, why not? anyway to make the saves harder to works for me and none epic.

[*Tildryn]

hmm bard 3 curse song -1 to will /fort
blackguard -2 to saves

dc 24 base

wisdom boost +6
+3 spell focus transmutation.

24+3+6 =33

of close and use curse add 3

36 level six spell drown 42 or level 9 spell mass drown 45

followed by extract water elemental or something else would do in most creatures.

prefer none epic dc something more likely to cast.

You're not showing your working very clearly here. What is this 'DC 24 base'? It can't be the Base 10 + Spell Level 9 etc, because you're adding spell level again later in your working. Clarify, please.

[*Product of Void]

http://nwn2db.com/build.php?id=24961&version=1

base 10
wisdom 11
spell prodigy 1
epic caster 2
=24
epic focus transmutation +3
=27
owls wisdom +6
=33
curse song +1
aura +2
=36
drown spell 6 mass drown 9
= 42 or 45

due to ecl here modification figure minus 1 from that due to epic feat at level 30. so then its 41 and 44

[*Lost and not Found]

http://nwn2db.com/build.php?id=20060&version=1

I'd make some changes to Chasted's build:
10, +12 Wisdom Modifier (Base), +2 Wisdom Modifier (Amulet), +4 Epic Caster,+1 Spell Casting Prodigy, +1 Spell Focus Evocation, +12 Implosion, = DC 42.

If you start with 19 or 20 Wisdom, that is +1 to the dc.
And the good thing about the Implosion spell is that it can actually kill if the target fails his save.

Edit:
Mass Drown is a Conjuration spell.
Thus, Drown DC = 41, Mass Drown DC = 41. :lol:

And, here is the compulsory youtube flick: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x17uzPUN ... re=related

[*Tildryn]

Well if you really want to go the route of including save-decreasing abilities too...

Druid 25/Blackguard 3/Warpriest 1

Caster Level: 29

Gray Orc/Aasimar

Wisdom: Base 20 + 7 Levels + 5 of 6 Feats = 32 + 12 (Owl's Insight) = 44 (+17 Mod)

DCs: Base 10 + Wis 17 + Spell 9 + Epic 3 + Prodigy 1 + Focii 3 + Aura 2 + Aura 1 = 46 (Epic Spell 51 if you managed to fit one in, though you technically can't. I just like to include this anyway.)

Though I had thought the challenge was boosting the actual DC. I'd rather not get up close and personal overly-much to need the auras.

That's DC 41 without the auras.

Oh...and Lost, Implosion doesn't have the free +3 extra boost in NWN2, as I recall. Nor in the newest patch of NWN1.

I think I'll have that "U Can't Touch This" now, Lost. :P

[*Lost and not Found]

I do not think the Epic Spells benefit from spell focus feats, as they are not real spells but once per day usable class abilities.

And I'll get back to you with the Implosion DC.

Anyhow, we can discard some of the metamagic feats, to qualify for the Blackguard class instead of the Stormlord, it would grant us one extra point to the DC.

[*Tildryn]

well even with out dc a wizard/sorcer with Avasculate can make short work of things. There is a save to that spell ....for stun.

have also seen some wizards do nice damage with disintegrate. empowered figure its 40d6 x1.5 = which is between 60 to 360 damage (no save well a fort save for 5d6 additional. You take the 40d6 if they make a ranged touch attack.).

From what I hear if that is from a hidden character just deflection and dodge ac is added so really just need bab 10 or so to hit most.

That's not how Disintegrate works. If you succed your Fortitude save you only take 5d6 points of damage, total.

A ranged touch attack is vs Dex + Dodge + Deflection AC. That's from anyone, not just a hidden character.