My Merchant Rp

*Sinlinara
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Posted by *Sinlinara »


Vesper,Dec 20 2016 wrote:
Sinlinara,Dec 21 2016 wrote:However, I happen to think that it is important to respond when someone is advocating for use of terms that is immersion-breaking, as happened in this thread.
I personally feel that when I have a recipe book with five recipes in it, each taking a different gem, each consuming progressively more gold and progressively more powerful essences, then it is very reasonable to talk about five different 'tiers' of enchantment in a way that talking about a 'plus 5 enhancement' would not be, the latter referring to a mechanic that appears only on someone's character sheet, with no corresponding in-game manifestation. Rather, I would be more surprised if there were not a way to talk about such things with precision, at least among professional all-magic friends.
This would be the case if we used the game mechanics of the server as a basis for how magical items are made. But, and especially in a setting like Planescape, I think it is rather unlikely, and dare I say presumptive, to assume that everyone is using the exact same recipes, materials, techniques, and magical sources to enchant items with.

We have to remember that most game mechanics are abstractions. How someone from Krynn learns to permanently imbue a sword with magic so that it strikes more true and clean than any other is inevitably going to be different from someone doing the same in the Elemental Plane of Air. Even simply obtaining the Create Magic Arms and Armor feat will be different.

Each magical item that we come across is unique and interesting because we do not all simply obtain a recipe from the Laboratory and gather the same materials to enchant an item. We all personally find our own ways to create them, and they each have their own eccentricities as a result. And this is wonderful because it gives an all-magic friend even more of a reason to appreciate the works of another all-magic friend.
*Vesper
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Posted by *Vesper »


Sinlinara,Dec 21 2016 wrote:And this is wonderful because it gives an all-magic friend even more of a reason to appreciate the works of another all-magic friend.
It is possible that you are a very wonderful all-magic friend.
*Sinlinara
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Oh my. I- I am glad that you think so. You are also a very stellar all-magic friend.
*FiveWhats
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Posted by *FiveWhats »


Don't overthink enchantment, there are a million different things you could be focusing on in character that are much more compelling. I'd much rather just get enchantment and crafting done quickly so I can talk about literally anything else.
*SyntheticRose
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Posted by *SyntheticRose »


edmaster44,Dec 21 2016 wrote:
Whitefly,Dec 20 2016 wrote: "Me want shiny big sword! Not strongest what people got for sells, but next best fing."

Is better than...

"I would very much like to purchase a greatsword enchanted to the fourth tier."

Honestly I hate it when people say, "fifth tier", and stuff like that. It's such a half-baked, lazy attempt at RPifying game mechanics. It's like those people who ask, "What season are you?", in a bid to figure out what level you are. I always respond, "Spring? No wait, summer!"
"No silly, Fall!" I hate that too, Season, Like who says that..?
Ilysthel has a season! She's Winter! Every Fey has one, and should they die, their season is when they'll reincarnate.
*Whitefly
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Posted by *Whitefly »


FiveWhats,Dec 21 2016 wrote: Don't overthink enchantment, there are a million different things you could be focusing on in character that are much more compelling. I'd much rather just get enchantment and crafting done quickly so I can talk about literally anything else.
I think I quite like the opportunity to roleplay nuance. Trading is so often over and done with super quick that you don't really get to go into the details of craftsmanship and enchantment, nor history behind weapons nor any discussion of how to use them. You would think that on buying a magical sword, you would probably want to know if saying, "Wizardy-wizardy-woo", is going to make it set on fire and shoot lasers beams.

As a general rule of thumb, if it feels like shopping on Amazon, you've probably missed some potential for roleplay.
*Tomekk
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Posted by *Tomekk »


This is honestly starting to sound like nitpicking. An IC interpretation that tells whether Goremaw the Abyssal Warhammer or Johnny's Smith hammer is the better weapon isn't really an issue until you make it one. :P

You also forget that most people who visit a merchant to buy something just want their character to get the gear necessary for them to move on to the next area. On the other hand, characters who have already gotten over the arbitrary grind of levels/item and have time to peruse merchant wares for cool stuff will rarely find anything interesting due to how limiting the server is towards cool items. A Helm of Brilliance would be super duper awesome in a PnP campaign, but its incredibly meh in the CR30 Lower Planes...

If you want to poke holes into things that break immersion, look at how inactive the Factions are and how the city sometimes feel like an off-beat tavern for the cool kids of Faerun or some other bollocks. :P Now that's something that could use some addressing.
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Posted by *Sinlinara »


Tomekk, that's cool until one of those same merchants with time on their hands recommends people be lazy with their RP.

I'm content to let people do whatever they want with their RP, but I also think it's important to advocate for more thoughtful and complex RP when someone suggests the opposite.
*Sinlinara
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Posted by *Sinlinara »


@Jelkia, I understand that. That is why I am not making a thread and recommending that people avoid doing this sort of thing.
However, I happen to think that it is important to respond when someone is advocating for use of terms that is immersion-breaking, as happened in this thread.

I might make fun of you for it in-character, but my general philosophy towards RP is very much a live and let live variety.
*edmaster44
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Posted by *edmaster44 »


Whitefly,Dec 20 2016 wrote: "Me want shiny big sword! Not strongest what people got for sells, but next best fing."

Is better than...

"I would very much like to purchase a greatsword enchanted to the fourth tier."

Honestly I hate it when people say, "fifth tier", and stuff like that. It's such a half-baked, lazy attempt at RPifying game mechanics. It's like those people who ask, "What season are you?", in a bid to figure out what level you are. I always respond, "Spring? No wait, summer!"
"No silly, Fall!" I hate that too, Season, Like who says that..?
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